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Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Full-Face Bicycle Helmet Instead of an Air Sports Helmet

14 June, 2017 - 20:26
Author: remmoore
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:26 pm (GMT -8)

Soarcerer wrote: Alright so, i've decided to order a helmet directly from Kali. My head measures 58-59 cm which puts me at a large, however when I tried on large helmets (from other brands) in the bike shop the other night they were pretty tight.

How does the fit on the Shiva compare - is it wise to go up to an XL (61-62 cm according to their site)?

This is why I hate ordering stuff online

There are a couple of things I can tell you about Kali helmet sizing. I've had three of them, and they all were consistent in these points.

First, they seem to be true to the advertised circumferences. If you're buying one advertised at 61-62 cm, that's what the helmet will be. Second, Kali helmets have a more rounded head-shape. Not perfectly round, of course, but on the more rounded end of the spectrum. If you know from experience what shape your head is, order accordingly. I, for example, have a more elongated head, and need to order a slightly larger helmet size.

RM

Hang gliding general :: RE: Velcro GoPro Mounts for Use While Flying

14 June, 2017 - 19:27
Author: dbotos
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:27 am (GMT -8)

Crossbar and keel mounts of mine using velcro straps:

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?p=395166#395166

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?p=398746#398746

Hang gliding general :: Fond Memories

14 June, 2017 - 18:25
Author: Eteamjack
Subject: Fond Memories
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:25 am (GMT -8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKtLrXzPpaM
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Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Full-Face Bicycle Helmet Instead of an Air Sports Helmet

14 June, 2017 - 18:21
Author: Eteamjack
Subject: Bike Helmets
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:21 am (GMT -8)

I only had a couple of flights on my 661 MTB helmet. Fiberglass and kevlar components. Just slightly heavier than my previous open face unit. Well ventilated. Good fit and seemed to have plenty of foam core. Nice finish.
I enjoyed it for those two flights. When I crashed there was no head involvement so I cannot testify for it's integrity. I know that if my head had hit the rock I came in contact with it probably would not have mattered. Pretty inexpensive.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Velcro GoPro Mounts for Use While Flying

14 June, 2017 - 18:21
Author: Nigel Hewitt
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:21 am (GMT -8)

I use the Zoot mount I got from http://www.turfhouse.com/acatalog/copy_of_Accessories.html (Its about two thirds of the way down the page)
It's threaded for a normal camera base so a GoPro fits nicely.
I assume somebody local to you would have it or similar.

I've run it on the keel or, on a single surface glider, on the wind spar.
I haven't yet worked out how to wing mount it on my double surface Avian Rio 15
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Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Full-Face Bicycle Helmet Instead of an Air Sports Helmet

14 June, 2017 - 18:16
Author: Soarcerer
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:16 am (GMT -8)

Alright so, i've decided to order a helmet directly from Kali. My head measures 58-59 cm which puts me at a large, however when I tried on large helmets (from other brands) in the bike shop the other night they were pretty tight.

How does the fit on the Shiva compare - is it wise to go up to an XL (61-62 cm according to their site)?

This is why I hate ordering stuff online
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Hang gliding general :: Velcro GoPro Mounts for Use While Flying

14 June, 2017 - 18:01
Author: Soarcerer
Subject: Velcro GoPro Mounts for Use While Flying
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:01 am (GMT -8)

Hello All -

I'm sure this has been discussed but after a few searches can't seem to find what i'm looking for.

Right now i'm using a large mount for my GoPro which fits on my keel. It's clumsy, takes forever to handle and I don't like using it. I would like to use some sort or velcro strap which will be large enough to fit around the keel and crossbar yet small enough to go on to the control bar. I am, obviously, also concerned that the strap will be secure and the camera wont' fall off

I see wrist straps but not sure they are large enough for what I want. I'm just curious if any of you folks are using a velcro strap to mount your GoPro cameras and if so, what specifically are you using and where can I buy it? Also opinions on using velcro mounts would be appreciated.

Thoughts?
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Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Full-Face Bicycle Helmet Instead of an Air Sports Helmet

14 June, 2017 - 17:49
Author: Takeo77
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:49 am (GMT -8)

remmoore wrote:

There are some details regarding the face shield installation on pages 1 & 4 of the previous discussion I linked earlier. Let me know if you need more help.

RM

Thanks! Wilco.

Software, Research & Technology :: RE: Beware of Pop-Up Scams!!

14 June, 2017 - 17:24
Author: kukailimoku
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:24 am (GMT -8)

The only real issue with this particular style of pop-up is if you can't close it or the page. You can also get a fake "leave or stay" message and clicking either will make bead things happen. If you can't leave the page it's off to the task manager and make it go bye-bye.
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Incident Reports :: RE: Quite possibly the dumbest most unsafe thing I've ever seen

14 June, 2017 - 17:03
Author: dbotos
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:03 am (GMT -8)

NMERider wrote: We're all doomed! Anyone read the latest USHPA Mid-Air avoidance dispatch?
https://www.ushpa.org/page/mid-air-incidents-a-recent-trend

Yeah, they said "recent trend" and "several", but never mentioned any quantitative number of incidents in some date range or rates of incidents in a particular year or time period.

Where are the links to individual incident reports that they're gathering these trends from? I understand privacy concerns for those submitting incident/accident reports, so go ahead and scrub the pilot names and even the site name if you want to, but I think reading those individual reports of specific situations would probably be more helpful than just reading general tips.

Incident Reports :: RE: Dog Mountain crash report Sunday June 5, 2:00pm (John was no

14 June, 2017 - 16:43
Author: DMarley
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:43 am (GMT -8)

RobertKesselring wrote:
Nah, yer good.

Thanks Robert.

Well, just to brag a little, my first uphill-down-wind landing there was a near perfect two-stepper, then the mentioned flounder-flop landing, then two more perfect two-step landings in about 7-10 mph crosswind conditions. I now LOVE uphill landings! As I told Tommy, I'm gonna become much too accustomed to those easy uphill landings and forget how to land on level ground if I continue to target that hill. I believe I should try that flatter landing strip for a few landings now and then so I don't get too spoiled.

Incident Reports :: RE: Quite possibly the dumbest most unsafe thing I've ever seen

14 June, 2017 - 16:40
Author: dbotos
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:40 am (GMT -8)

Robert,

Your response in taking down the video is commendable. I agree that the chance of furthering a likely stereotype of hang gliding as a crazy, dare-devil activity to the public at large outweighed the original intention of the shot.

Perhaps you could recreate the shot sometime with a GoPro or some other remote camera system on the ground and then note that in the video. Seems like the outcome would be much better if you accidentally knocked over a pound or two of camera and stand on your way off launch than 100+ pounds of camera and human operator.

David

Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Full-Face Bicycle Helmet Instead of an Air Sports Helmet

14 June, 2017 - 16:36
Author: remmoore
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:36 am (GMT -8)

Takeo77 wrote: Quote:
Takeo, you might want to consider installing a face shield on your Shiva. I included information on purchasing and installing one in the posting I attached above. Over Memorial Day weekend, I was at 12.5K over the Sierras, and my face shield did a great job in keeping my face and head warm!


Thanks for the information! I have wanted to install a visor since the snow goggles are a little clumsy.

There are some details regarding the face shield installation on pages 1 & 4 of the previous discussion I linked earlier. Let me know if you need more help.

RM

Hang gliding general :: RE: Freedom 190 or Falcon 225 for first hang glider?

14 June, 2017 - 16:05
Author: blindrodie
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:05 am (GMT -8)

Quote: If you get tired flying a falcon you need to go to the gym.
I don't see how that is even possible.

Improperly trimmed and/or setup and even the Falcon will fly like a truck...


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Hang gliding general :: RE: Freedom 190 or Falcon 225 for first hang glider?

14 June, 2017 - 16:03
Author: blindrodie
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:03 am (GMT -8)

Quote: Perhaps I'll keep it floored next time I'm passing through.

Regardless of this thread, that would be a big mistake IMHO...


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Hang gliding general :: RE: Freedom 190 or Falcon 225 for first hang glider?

14 June, 2017 - 16:02
Author: AlaskanNewb
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:02 am (GMT -8)

mtnwings wrote: 90% of my students buy the Freedom and finish their training on the Freedom. Comments I have heard are: " Why have you made us fly that Falcon, this Freedom is so much easier to fly"
We train on Falcons and Condors but when it is time to buy I want my customers to fly all that are available and choose for them selves what they are more comfortable in. The Falcon when stalled or flown too slow wants to wrap up or spin in, the Freedoms will not do this, they mush and still fly straight and slow.
It is true that the Freedom is very light handling and very responsive . Here is why some pilots feel the Freedom is harder to tow and the opinion of pilots that HAVE NOT FLOWN the Freedom. Most new tow pilots train on the Falcon, a very stiff and stable glider, great for training but not for getting lots of airtime and it will wear you out. These pilot hop into a Freedom for the first time and are all over the place, usually because they have not been versed on the light handling and quick response of the Freedom. Every student of mine that has gone down to Fla to learn to tow exclaim how their Freedom was on rails when they got towed up, this is because they know to fly with their finger tips and not over control. It's more of the pilot not knowing the glider (what does PIO mean?)f Why does the Freedom usually clean up at the single surface comps, which are all tow event? Why do most all professional tow parks now us the 220 Freedom for their tandems? because that are not wearing out the tandem pilots and they can do more tandems without needing a break, they freakin handle sweet and nice.
I was going to respond the Ryans off the wall ramblings but I know that most all of you know he has never flown one and really has no idea what he is talking about, I call him " Trump Voight", or maybe " Voight Trump" either one "all lies" LOL, Love ya Ryan.
And if you ever installed the curved tips on a Freedom you would know how effortless it is.
Come visit my training hill on any given weekend and watch five, Ten and sometimes fifteen new students training on their new Freedoms and and you will see for your selves how sweet these gliders are , I invite you to do this and fly one your self before you spout off with all these untruths and second hand info that you " heard" about the Freedom. The Freedom has been out for five or six years now, I have sold a hundred of them, why are none found for sale? Why is the resale price so high on them if one does show up used? Why is the used Freedom gone in one or two days after being posted for sale? It is the best value period. Next to the Gecko it is the best glider on the market. besides, it looks so cool, all gliders should have curved tips. If you buy a Falcon you will spend all your time wishing you had a Freedom and wondering why that guy with a lot less experience is fo much higher than you. Didn't fly one? then shut up.
BYW, The Freedom if purchased in the stock configuration is , no VG, no Mylar cloth or any of the other options that are available will find the Freedom light, easy to set up, balanced on your shoulders and sweet to fly. The cool thing about the Freedom is that you can buy V.G. ( buy a new glider with out this option?) Why? Add heavy Mylar or race cloth and the glider gets heavier just as the Falcon does when you add heavier cloth. It does have a higher aspect ratio which means more wing span and more performance, a few LBS but who cares when you have a single surface glider that fly along side the Sport but with sweet single surface characteristics, very light pitch pressure and fingertip control. Why do MOST pilot that fly the Freedom land and yell out " I WANT ONE OF THESE!!!" Try one then talk about it, not before you fly one, If you say you didn't like it you are flat out lying. Mr Trump. Also ask yourself, do you want to buy a glider you will out grow in a few months like the Falcon or a glider you will want to own forever?
Greg

If you get tired flying a falcon you need to go to the gym.
I don't see how that is even possible.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Freedom 190 or Falcon 225 for first hang glider?

14 June, 2017 - 15:42
Author: DMarley
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:42 am (GMT -8)

Wow. Lots of love and real professionalism emanating from that Ellenville area. Perhaps I'll keep it floored next time I'm passing through.

Software, Research & Technology :: RE: Beware of Pop-Up Scams!!

14 June, 2017 - 14:23
Author: sg
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:23 am (GMT -8)

NMERider wrote: sg wrote: ....The sensational title blaming this site isn't very helpful. My bad on the original title. I was doing too many things at once and ran out of time. I have now changed the title to be more accurate. Unfortunately, too few posters here change titles and/or categories to refine the topics.

Thanks!
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Software, Research & Technology :: RE: Beware of Pop-Up Scams!!

14 June, 2017 - 14:22
Author: NMERider
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:22 am (GMT -8)

blindrodie wrote: Quote: Are you being a smartass Jimbo?

Sorry but, I have little compassion for folks that fall for computer scams like the above. WAKE UP PEEPS! It's 2017 and we've had computers for a long time (well, in computer years that is).

Jim, I feel the same way as you but not everyone gets it or has been educated. I know people in their 80's who fall for these things and others who just aren't that savvy at spotting a hustle among many other things. How many people readily admit they've been conned? I've seen it too often when folks hide their embarrassment and don't learn how to undo the damage as a result.

Anyhow it was interesting to note that this toll-free number is being used in a variety of scams. A few years ago when I was feeling bored, I picked up the phone during a robo-call just to see how long I could keep the credit consolidation salesman on the other end on the line. After 20 minutes of making 'errors' in recalling my social security number and credit card data, the guy got smart and told me, "Oh, I get it now. You're just fuucking with me. Well, I have your number and I'm going to starting calling you in the middle of the night...." and an assortment of other threats. I told him that I was lonely and looking forward to the contact. Sure enough, he calls me at 0:dark thirty and I pick up the phone only to thank him for the call because I missed his company. He didn't know whether to shyt of go blind (as my daddy used to say). That was the last I heard from him. I know that if he's getting revenge on me then he's not making money.
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Incident Reports :: RE: Quite possibly the dumbest most unsafe thing I've ever seen

14 June, 2017 - 00:11
Author: Dave Gills
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:11 pm (GMT -8)


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