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Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Nicopress corrosion – is this what it looks like?

20 March, 2017 - 19:20
Author: NMERider
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:20 am (GMT -8)

Do the side wire stomp test. It's in the manual.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Android Phone Pod + Bracket wanted.

20 March, 2017 - 18:59
Author: andydion
Subject: Murmation
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:59 am (GMT -8)

There's a new app called Murmation.



Instead of being 2d like the others, it's 3d and gives augmented view. It's the easiest to use and doesn't require starting or stopping flights. Best variometer logic and settings.

To top that off, there's the realtime website that lets users watch flights live, and can be accessed on any devices.

If that's not enough, it lets you sync Youtube videos.

Take a look at the viewer:
https://murmation.com/flight/5700

Google Play link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andydion.murmation&hl=en&source=downloadatoz.com

Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Nicopress corrosion – is this what it looks like?

20 March, 2017 - 18:45
Author: klh
Subject: Nickel
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:45 am (GMT -8)

A "nico" is copper with nickel plating.
In my _personal_ opinion based on looking at your photos that black stuff you see is just surface discoloration of the nickel plating. The strength of the nico is inside where the copper flowed around the steel strands when it was pressed on.

That said, annual replacement of your side wires is a really good idea.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Newbie Pilot Harness - Cocoon vs Knee Hanger

20 March, 2017 - 18:40
Author: TjW
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:40 am (GMT -8)

A lot depends on the knee-hanger part. A well padded one that's not too tight can be okay. You should be careful to spread your legs as you go upright.
If the knee-hanger ropes go behind your butt instead of out to the sides, it can make it harder to run out a landing.

A two-line pod harness (i.e. not a single suspension) is very easy to launch and land. If you don't feel like handling the complexity of zipping it up, then don't zip it up. Even unzipped, with your legs up, it's probably no draggier than a cocoon.

You don't have to hold anything, or drop anything, or learn the "figure 4" sticking-your-knee-out-to-the-side-so-you-don't-kick-the-boot-forward technique.
You can't step on the boot when landing, because it's behind you.

The one drawback IMO, is unzipping. That adds a little complication, You might want to unzip with some altitude so that in the event your pull line breaks, or the zipper jams, you have time to deal with it.

Also, some people don't like how warm they can be. For me, unzipping part way generally gets enough air to be comfortable. YMMV

Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Nicopress corrosion – is this what it looks like?

20 March, 2017 - 18:30
Author: brian scharp
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:30 am (GMT -8)

They should always be questioned.
https://vimeo.com/138095129

The camp fire :: RE: Eagle Cam!

20 March, 2017 - 18:25
Author: Roadrunner
Subject: Looking to be a: "GOOD PILOT>"
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:25 am (GMT -8)

Hey A Big hanks for this video.


When I see an Eagle in the Air working a Thermal. You know coring the best lift. All I want to do is to Core through the Bird. if? And when I do that I will then be a Good Pilot.

Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Nicopress corrosion – is this what it looks like?

20 March, 2017 - 17:30
Author: KTMPilot
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:30 am (GMT -8)

Risk management: What about galvanic corrosion on the inside of the Nicopress sleeve, between the stainless cable and the sleeve, that may not be visible?

[/quote]That said, if you question them, why not replace them? A set of wires can't be that expensive. We do this for fun, and I can't imagine it would be that fun if you're worried about your equipment dropping you out of the sky.[quote]


Hang gliding general :: RE: Hello / first post

20 March, 2017 - 17:13
Author: TomGalvin
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:13 am (GMT -8)

Shammy wrote: I'm hoping that they'll have information about piloting lessons that'll be closer to me, as their site is located a good two hours away from me at the present.

Here is the list of Instructors in your state.

https://www.ushpa.org/legacy/instructors_map-hybrid.asp?state=pa

Keep in mind that not all of them are taking new students.

At about an hour and a half of driving, Ellenville, NY will probably be the closest site with active instruction.
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Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Nicopress corrosion – is this what it looks like?

20 March, 2017 - 16:40
Author: designbydave
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:40 am (GMT -8)

If there is any doubt what-so-ever in your side wires just replace them.

From the Wills Wing Sport 2 manual section on maintenance (every 6 months,) page 41, #4:

Quote: Inspect all cables and suspension system components, and replace any suspension system
component that shows any wear, and any cable that shows any kinks, wear, damage,
corrosion, etc.

I added the emphasis. So, yeah, just replace them. Granted, it would be nice to know if the signs you are seeing are indeed signs of corrosion or not, if only for curiosity's sake. But yeah, replace those wires.



http://willswing.com/wp-content/uploads/manuals/S2_5th_May_2009.pdf
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Suprone revisited, the "Fenison Fly Bar"

20 March, 2017 - 16:37
Author: dbotos
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:37 am (GMT -8)

Jim,

Thanks. Looks like it might be possible to bore the ribbed section out and make a bushing that brings it down whatever size ID is needed. I have made some bushings out of recycled HDPE that have turned out well for other projects.

Suprone looks nice and relaxing. May have to try sometime. How's a typical PG harness compare pricewise to a typical HG harness?

David

Hang gliding general :: RE: Hello / first post

20 March, 2017 - 16:14
Author: blindrodie
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:14 am (GMT -8)

Quote: as their site is located a good two hours away from me at the present.

Consider yourself lucky!!!!


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Hang gliding general :: RE: Newbie Pilot Harness - Cocoon vs Knee Hanger

20 March, 2017 - 16:13
Author: Eteamjack
Subject: Harnesses
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:13 am (GMT -8)

The knee hanger harness is a good begining harness, but be prepared to make another investment shortly. I found it easy to launch,fly, and land. Drawbacks drag and lack of lower body protection. I once made a belly landing on an asphalt street and was very glad i had the cocoon as it accepted some serious abuse. Cocoons are very comfortable and provide good frontal protection. Drawbacks somewhat difficult to enter. Can be a distraction getting into after launching and some aero drag. Lack of storage. I prefer the pod for comfort and ease of entry Dont believe there is a sign ificant performance gain over a cocoon unless you invest in a costly top of the line
Performance Pod. Pod has lots of additional storage which is positive thing
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Newbie Pilot Harness - Cocoon vs Knee Hanger

20 March, 2017 - 16:06
Author: NMERider
Subject: Re: Newbie Pilot Harness - Cocoon vs Knee Hanger
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:06 am (GMT -8)

gliderz_za! wrote: Hi there.

I'm in the process of getting a glider, harness and helmet. Due to this being my first ever hang gliding purchase, I would like to know if it is a good idea to invest in a cocoon harness while I'm getting airtime after I have been certified.

My instructor says that a knee hanger is comfortable for the first 20 minutes of flight time, thereafter it becomes a pain...literally.

Is this true?

Charles
Welcome Charles ,
I have Hang 4 and 5 rated friends who fly for hours on knee-hanger harnesses. Properly fitted, these can last you a lifetime. They do however produce more drag and lack storage. Cocoons are my favorite harness and can have lots of storage and be configured to be fairly streamline. However, an improperly fitted cocoon will hurt your back. If you go with a cocoon please get an experienced cocoon pilot to help you adjust it to YOUR anatomy.
Good luck!
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Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Nicopress corrosion – is this what it looks like?

20 March, 2017 - 16:01
Author: NMERider
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:01 am (GMT -8)

Send the first photo to Mike Meier, VP of Wills Wing and president of the HGMA along with the facts and report back his response.

I can tell you right now that what you're seeing is spots on the tin coating due to the presence of condensation from salt air. It's NOT zinc plating. It's tin plated copper. http://www.nicopress.com/documents/data-sheets/Nicopress_Data_Sheet_Wire_Rope_Products.pdf

It's also harmless as my good friend and flying partner Comet has already pointed out. But don't take the words from a bunch of grumpy old middle-aged mouse-pad pilots when you can take the word of a dry-witted manufacturing expert. https://www.willswing.com/contact/
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Use of 303 Aerospace Protectant on dacron sails / harness?

19 March, 2017 - 20:35
Author: highhuber
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:35 pm (GMT -8)

My bad, sailkote plus is a professionally applied product made for yacht sails.

Sailkote the original formula is the one found in cans at West Marine.

The reason sails furl tighter with using it is not because they become less stiff or lowered in their performance, but because they become less binding, or friction producing rubbing against each other when you are furling them.

I used to spray my whole dacron sail on my Atos with this product and found it to be great for reducing dirt and stains from clinging to it. It is also hydrophobic and therefore helps water roll right off of the sail if it happens to be raining.

With a technora sail on my T2C I don't use this product but have been using Formula 303 for the past 2 years and it seems to work alright to keep it looking new as the mylar begins to dry out with sun exposure and takes on a dry and chafed look although it still is performing well. I know others who have been using it for 4 or more years with no problems.

I'm going to experiment with McLubes Hullkote and see if it will work on the technora sails and will post back with my experience with it.

Sailkote is also what I use now on all the friction parts of the frame and VG systems of my gliders, and zippers on my harness. It is superior to anything else for reducing friction and it drys in a few seconds and doesn't attract dirt. Way better then silicone sprays.

It's not cheap but hey you get what you pay for usually

hh

Hang gliding general :: RE: Hello / first post

19 March, 2017 - 19:29
Author: highhuber
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:29 am (GMT -8)

[quote="DAVE 858"]Scott, you have not posted any videos lately despite accomplishing amazing feats. Your Youtube audience is very disappointed! [/quote

Yea Dave I know, my GoPro mount fell from my trike last winter. No safety line and the tripod mount broke in flight from cracks in the plastic tabs. The base was still there when I landed.

I used my Sony RX100 for pics and videos throughout the summer but when I went to transfer the data from my SD cards into my computer the card reader wouldn't recognize them. I took them to a friends house and he transferred the data onto my external hard drive] using a laptop which didn't have the muscle to handle the AVCHD files the sony records in so all I got was the pics.

That's why I haven't posted any videos for awhile. I just bought an external card reader yesterday which I hope will solve the problem. Now I need to get another GoPro, which I will do shortly. Don't want to miss the flight when the Walts Point site record goes down, as it very possibly will this coming year if the stars align in my favor which I feel they are doing. No promises though as with much in life, you don't always get what you want. But you usually get what you need.

hh

Hang gliding general :: RE: Let's All Use Instagram for Hang Gliding Marketing!

19 March, 2017 - 16:53
Author: designbydave
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:53 am (GMT -8)

#humanflight
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Let's All Use Instagram for Hang Gliding Marketing!

19 March, 2017 - 16:42
Author: designbydave
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:42 am (GMT -8)

DBrose wrote: https://www.instagram.com/p/BQo4CXPDXQ7/ I have been doing this for a little while. I changed some things on my front page to reflect a little positive HG vibe. I don't really post onto YouTube very often because I've seen my numbers dwindling in views. I noticed people like to watch a :45 second clip over a 4min video.

You're doing a great job keep it up! Instagram is great for hang gliding video "highlight" clips like you've been positing.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Let's All Use Instagram for Hang Gliding Marketing!

19 March, 2017 - 16:40
Author: designbydave
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:40 am (GMT -8)

Jason wrote:
and with spring around the corner.....the flying will increase

@jbohawk

Yep yep
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