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Hang gliding general :: RE: Sky Truckin'

13 June, 2017 - 23:47
Author: ksykes
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:47 pm (GMT -8)

There's a blast from the past. I went to high school in Maine and we had a ski hill. In 74 or 75 Sky Truckin came down and did a group lesson for us. Eric Raymond and I built Sky Sports Larks or at least built the frames, we bought the sails.

We were able to fly on the ski hill when the winds were good. Unfortunately it faced northeast, so that was a fairly rare occurrence. We also flew with skis in the winter. Sugarloaf got shutdown as a site before I had the rating or the balls to fly it.

Got a rating from the other rating group, can't remember the name, but it was a blue logbook with your picture attached. Think you sent it in when you had the flights for the next rating and they stamped it and sent it back.

Incident Reports :: RE: Quite possibly the dumbest most unsafe thing I've ever seen

13 June, 2017 - 23:46
Author: NMERider
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:46 pm (GMT -8)

We're all doomed! Anyone read the latest USHPA Mid-Air avoidance dispatch?
https://www.ushpa.org/page/mid-air-incidents-a-recent-trend
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Software, Research & Technology :: The Org has been hacked

13 June, 2017 - 23:40
Author: NMERider
Subject: The Org has been hacked
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:40 pm (GMT -8)

This bullshit just popped up when I checked the Org. Anyone foolish enough call the phony 855 number in the pop-up may end up getting locked out of his own PC while the thieves on the other end get all your data. The phone# is a well-established fraud boiler room: http://www.800notes.org/8558827403/
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Incident Reports :: RE: Quite possibly the dumbest most unsafe thing I've ever seen

13 June, 2017 - 23:36
Author: kukailimoku
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:36 pm (GMT -8)

Sheesh, I'm glad nobody got a video of me grabbing Larry Reynold's hat off his head when he was standing on the Marina ramp looking the other way.

I mean...er..."that guy" did it.

Miss ya' LR.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Sky Truckin'

13 June, 2017 - 22:03
Author: Fletcher
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:03 pm (GMT -8)

Landed in the leisure field outside Tohelluride one day in 1990, no driver.
Along comes Captain Jack in a rickety old Jeep with a large box of fresh picked and perfectly ripe peaches in the back and of course a huge smile on his face.
Fresh peaches and a ride to my van after a great day of flyin
I've got so many stories like that it should be illegal

Incident Reports :: RE: Quite possibly the dumbest most unsafe thing I've ever seen

13 June, 2017 - 21:31
Author: Jason
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:31 pm (GMT -8)

DAVE 858 wrote: Quote: Removed video because after reading the comments here, I realized it had the appearance of being risky rather than exciting, as was the intent, and that public image is not helpful.

If there was truly no increased risk or close call then why would you take down the video?
cuz youre being a d*** about it...........

Incident Reports :: RE: Quite possibly the dumbest most unsafe thing I've ever seen

13 June, 2017 - 21:22
Author: DAVE 858
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:22 pm (GMT -8)

Quote: Removed video because after reading the comments here, I realized it had the appearance of being risky rather than exciting, as was the intent, and that public image is not helpful.

If there was truly no increased risk or close call then why would you take down the video?

Hang gliding general :: RE: Sky Truckin'

13 June, 2017 - 21:18
Author: NMERider
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:18 pm (GMT -8)

Maineiac wrote: Paul rode a guy wire down on his ultralight in the '90's, didn't make it to the hospital. Circling looking at a flock of turkeys on the ground, dinged an antenna guy. No idea what happened there. His girlfriend at the time was . . . crap. Maggie. She was gorgeous, now living in St. Croix, USVI and is a masseuse.

Cap'n Jack Carey passed away awhile back as well. I "helped him learn" how to fly prone, going from a WW Swallowtail to a Phoenix 6B. Off Ballard Peak, Telluride CO. We got HIGH that day, before Uncle Bill was selling backup chutes. Dude had cahones and burlap bags for lungs. He was on his mountain bike and stopped to talk to someone in a vehicle, turned and stepped into an oncoming Jeep.
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: 1978 Pico Peak International Hang Gliding Meet

13 June, 2017 - 20:44
Author: Maineiac
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:44 pm (GMT -8)

Let's see, Jeff Burnett was flying the blue Scirocco that pops up right after Mark Laversa's takeoff in the UP Firefly.

The WHOLE flick is kinda fictional license. Don't get me wrong, I liked it, but Jean-Michel flew straight into the ditch on his first flight with that BIG Mariah and he always looked a little out of control. Made me nervous. Uncle Bill made a mistake with that glider. It may not have ended Delta Wing Kites and Gliders, but it didn't do them any good. The Phoenix 8Jr. was O.K., but nothing spectacular. And Mark Laversa, bless his soul, landed smack in the top of a tree in the parking lot on his first flight, as did JJ.

Burnett hooked one over the parking lot ("McCabe's Meets" always seemed to involve live high tension wires surrounding the HOT LZ's) and said "bye bye." I think he actually tossed a drogue to get down. Frankly, I don't even remember Keith Nichols being there, or why he was flying an Olympus. He always flew the ASG 21. I remember meeting Larry Newman at Merriam when he busted out the Oly in 1977. 1.5" 6061 T6 tubing. Same as the Cirrus 3. Why they didn't break more of those is beyond me.

I don't even remember who actually won, but I don't think the movie got it right. Peghiny hung out, we headed for better flying after the first flight, went over to Mt. Washington and . . . who flew? Maybe Burnett went with us. Someone with a Scirocco did. And that pharmacist from N. Conway with the Sensor.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Sky Truckin'

13 June, 2017 - 20:04
Author: Maineiac
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:04 pm (GMT -8)

Paul rode a guy wire down on his ultralight in the '90's, didn't make it to the hospital. Circling looking at a flock of turkeys on the ground, dinged an antenna guy. No idea what happened there. His girlfriend at the time was . . . crap. Maggie. She was gorgeous, now living in St. Croix, USVI and is a masseuse.

Cap'n Jack Carey passed away awhile back as well. I "helped him learn" how to fly prone, going from a WW Swallowtail to a Phoenix 6B. Off Ballard Peak, Telluride CO. We got HIGH that day, before Uncle Bill was selling backup chutes. Dude had cahones and burlap bags for lungs. He was on his mountain bike and stopped to talk to someone in a vehicle, turned and stepped into an oncoming Jeep.

Incident Reports :: RE: Quite possibly the dumbest most unsafe thing I've ever seen

13 June, 2017 - 20:02
Author: DMarley
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:02 pm (GMT -8)

NMERider wrote: Worse than socialists. They're called, 'Hang Gliders'.

Naw. Hang glider pilots are great. It's those darned couch gliders, lazy-boy gliders, porch gliders, and them big, cushy, meeting-room arm-chair glider pilots. ALL them's the ones ya gotta watch our fer.

Incident Reports :: RE: Quite possibly the dumbest most unsafe thing I've ever seen

13 June, 2017 - 19:33
Author: once&future
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:33 am (GMT -8)

The upside to the demographic catastrophe that is hang gliding: Now we're ALL grumpy old men and act like it. Get off my goddamn LAWN!

Hang gliding general :: RE: I'm BAaaaak. . . .

13 June, 2017 - 19:00
Author: Maineiac
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:00 am (GMT -8)

Oh, I forgot to mention I'm on the Left Coast regularly. Even drove out the Mattole to look at that site, Shelter Cove and the one . . . Table Bluff. Why, I don't know . . . yet. There's a valley up by Lord Ellis Peak in Humboldt that intrigues me as well, right off 299. Lot of greenhouses out there, though.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Sky Truckin'

13 June, 2017 - 18:27
Author: NMERider
Subject: Re: Sky Truckin'
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:27 am (GMT -8)

Maineiac wrote: Sky Truckin', a takeoff from the Dead circa 1974-75 was Paul Laliberte and Larry Flewelling, included Jack Harvey, Jack Carey, Mike Cannon and others on the periphery of their flight school at Sugarloaf, Maine.

Sugarloaf was closed to flying in 1975 the day the TODAY show filmed there. The mountain was changing ownership, Laliberte and Connolly Keating flew, Paul landed is Quicksilver nicely in front of the baselodge and Connolly proceeded to beak the baselodge about 21.7' up the wall and crumpled his . . . Sun Standard? Maybe? What ever happened to Paul Laliberte? I had a fun time for a day or two with him, his wife or GF plus his fun-loving kitten, Wingnut back in 76.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: I'm BAaaaak. . . .

13 June, 2017 - 18:21
Author: NMERider
Subject: Re: I'm BAaaaak. . . .
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:21 am (GMT -8)

Maineiac wrote: O.K. I'm willin'. My last ride was a 1980 Sensor 210E 183sf. SWEET. Before that a Sky Sports Osprey skate board (the smaller one) that nobody else seemed to be able to fly. Damn thing was telepathic. Anhedral's a helluva drug. I saw a vid of me flying behind a building in the '78 Pico meet, but that warn't me crumpling into the ditch a second later. Check the panel colors. I was the first one to land in the parking lot in competition. Jean Michel drove that Mariah straight into a ditch next to the lodge on his first flight. On THAT flight, Mark Laversa ended up in the top of a tree. Curious how that got left out of the movie. That's me carrying the Osprey down behind Mark when he launched. A nicer guy you never met. I hear he passed away. We had a house outside Killington with Peghiny and Laliberte in for that one. Ed . . . Sky Sports Ed . . . wanted me to fly some BFG or BFK for that one. Hooked a thermal at Morningside before we went over to Killington and could NOT get down fast enough, with Pengweeny screaming "turn, turn." Only flew the one flight at Pico and headed to flyable mountains, just like in that silly '77 Nationals. We went to Magazine then. Flew a Cirrus 3, Bobcats, Larks, a monster WW - not Falcon, something else that guy that made the 'chutes in an old mill in NH wanted me to try to trim. A Raven. Scared the crap out of me but I brought it down without damage. WAY too big for me. Flew other stuff. Went over to Morningside in '99 or so to visit with Nicolay and reminisce. He had me ground handling a Falcon just for the fun of it. After a couple pokes up the grass I said "take me up top." No problem, bang a right and get over the top on the first swing. Jeff was another sweetheart.

I drove through Milford, NH awhile back and couldn't figure out where the train station was that Terry Sweeny and his harem lived in. And if there's a McK brother flyboy out there, you still owe me a few bucks.

62 this year, have missed it terribly. I KNOW when the lapse rate is up on any given day. I recognize on a daily basis when various places are soarable. I always contemplate ridges, cloudstreets and plains anywhere I go in the world. It's been like that for decades. May have to scrape up what I calculate to be about $10K for the training, glider and all the bells and whistles, but maybe. So come on DH, tell me why this isn't a great idea. Kevin W., Maine and U.S. Virgin Islands
Hi Kevin,
Welcome back!
I worked for Terry Sweeney during the summer of 76 in the old thread mill loft. I remember Dave Aguilar and his sewing shop as well as Fred and Hummingbird sails. Then there was the whole Bushwhackers group who pioneered new sites and X/C flying on Sky Sports Kestrals. I came back during the winter of 77 to work for Ed Vickery at Sky Sports where I met Bob Cordier among many others. I decided instead to go back to college. I'm sure we know more than a few people in common but I was from Chicago during that era and those were the only times I flew ion the East coat. I did some work for MWSoHG/U.S. Moyes between 78 and 82 in Bridgeman, MI. I quit the sport in 82 and didn't return until 08. I have since met many of our peers who have be gone 20 to 30 years. It's more typical than not. There is a huge segment of HG that is in our late 50s through late 60s. That's mostly who I fly with here in SoCal. What I found really interesting was how much more fun the sport is at age 50 than at age 20.
Cheers,
Jonathan

Here's the complete Pico meet series posted by Bob Cordier....

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Incident Reports :: RE: Quite possibly the dumbest most unsafe thing I've ever seen

13 June, 2017 - 18:02
Author: NMERider
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:02 am (GMT -8)

DMarley wrote: ....God forbid anyone who might think outside their little u$hpa box. They disgust me. Fracking socialists. Worse than socialists. They're called, 'Hang Gliders'.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Adjusting sprogs on older Sport 2-- ?????

13 June, 2017 - 17:58
Author: NMERider
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:58 am (GMT -8)

aeroexperiments wrote: ....I'm starting to see why the digital level test would be so much better.... That and the camera inside the sail are the best combination to get your sprogs as high as possible but not so high that they ever interfere with roll control. This is generally the ideal position for the sprogs and luff lines too.
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Hang gliding general :: Sky Truckin'

13 June, 2017 - 17:49
Author: Maineiac
Subject: Sky Truckin'
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:49 am (GMT -8)

Sky Truckin', a takeoff from the Dead circa 1974-75 was Paul Laliberte and Larry Flewelling, included Jack Harvey, Jack Carey, Mike Cannon and others on the periphery of their flight school at Sugarloaf, Maine.

Sugarloaf was closed to flying in 1975 the day the TODAY show filmed there. The mountain was changing ownership, Laliberte and Connolly Keating flew, Paul landed is Quicksilver nicely in front of the baselodge and Connolly proceeded to beak the baselodge about 21.7' up the wall and crumpled his . . . Sun Standard? Maybe?

Hang gliding general :: RE: I'm BAaaaak. . . .

13 June, 2017 - 17:44
Author: Maineiac
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:44 am (GMT -8)

Yeah, I knew about Nicolay. Nothing to do with flying. His last year was kinda rough.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Freedom 190 or Falcon 225 for first hang glider?

13 June, 2017 - 17:42
Author: Maineiac
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:42 am (GMT -8)

Notwithstanding the sales competitors commentary, and you both have your reasons, I'd like to hear more about the Sport 2 vs. the Freedom X (or otherwise, but sport topless intrigues the crap out of me) vs. the Gecko. My inclination is toward the Sport, but kinda because I've been around WW since the '70's. Although I've seen Steve Moyes do things . . . the guy could fly a picnic table and gain altitude. My hook in would be around 210 (jeez, I hope, if I start working at it now).